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SACICA
                     

                                       


Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association

Allen Rossow, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 439- 4144

Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136

Tony Doughty, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 625-7980

FEBRUARY 2015

The Southern Arizona ACICV chapter was called to order by SAIC Rossow at 10:00 hours February 27, 2015 in the conference room of the Old Brigade Building at Ft Huachuca, Sierra Vista AZ. Members attending were Allen & Lucinda Rossow, Tony & Pat Doughty; Tom & Carolyn Williams, Ray & Sharon Betts, Dave Ballenger, Jini Bausch, & John Bennatts.

BUSINESS

We were joined by (CW3) Charles William, SAIC of the Ft Huachuca office of the 902nd CIC Group, and one of his senior agents. They presented a most interesting hour long unclassified briefing on the current mission and operations of the 902nd, covering all of Arizona. In the post-9-11 environment, clearance background investigations are now handled by outside contractors,

freeing up more agent time for complaint investigations, military and civilian security education,

and liaison with other security branches like the FBI and the Border Patrol. A more complete

report will follow when we receive the unclassified outline. Following the meeting we all

adjourned to the Landmark Cafe in Sierra Vista for lunch.

NEXT MEETING:

The next meeting of the SA ACICV will be Friday, April 24, 2015, at 11:30 at the Country House

Restaurant in Sierra Vista. Program details will follow.

Respectfully submitted,

Tony Doughty, Secretary










Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association

Allen Rossow, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 439- 4144

Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136

Tony Doughty, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 625-7980

October 2014

The October meeting was held Friday, October 31, 2014 at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista,

AZ.  Attendance totaled 8, including Allen and Lucinda Rossow, Mac McCormick, Tony Doughty, Joan

Strom, Jini Bausch, Dorothy Dietz, and David Ballenger.  

BUSINESS: The meeting opened at 11:30 with SAIC Allen Rossow leading the pledge of allegiance,

followed by a moment of silence for fallen comrades. Especially mentioned was longtime group member

and participant Jack Drummond who passed away June 10. Jack had a 21 year career in counter-

intelligence culminating as the first Chief of Counter Intelligence and Positive Collection Division at the

U.S. Intelligence School at Ft. Huachuca. His career encompassed tours of duty in Europe, Korea, and

Vietnam, as well stateside.

Under the general heading of Personal Security, Dorothy Dietz shared an account of a recent attempt to

bilk her out of a sum of money by someone claiming to be police in California holding her grandson on a

trumped up drug possession charge. The scammers operated with a lot of personal knowledge, and

included actors impersonating both the policeman and also her grandson, who addressed even  

addressed her with the nickname her grandson uses.  Still, they weren’t sharp enough to fool Dorothy,

who turned the whole matter over to the Sierra Vista police.  This led to a general discussion of other

senior targeting scams known to be operating in the greater Tucson area. One involves fake IRS agents

who threaten jail if funds are not sent.  Another involves threatening a mark with arrest for missing jury

duty if a fine is not sent along immediately. Most of us with an MI background have a built in skepticism

towards such cons, but it’s helpful to be aware of the current con M Os in order to be able to share them

with more gullible friends.

NEXT MEETING: The next meeting will be 11:30 am Friday, October 21, at the Country House in Sierra

Vista.

Tony Doughty

Secretary






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OCTOBER 2012
We had a very special meeting with a very special speaker to start off the new winter
season. The October meeting was held Friday, 26 October 2012, at the Country House
Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ. We had a very full turnout to hear our special speaker –
Stan Solin.

NEXT MEETING: The next meeting will be on the last Friday of November which is the
Friday that comes a week after Thanksgiving – Friday November 30. A reminder of the
meeting will be sent in mid-November.

DISCUSSION: As a special accommodation to Stan Solin, everyone in the room gave
a history of their life in the CIC as well as life events following their separation from the
Army. We were all struck, yet again, with the wide variation in the fascinating adventures
experienced by our members. As a result, it was decided that steps needed to be taken
to create permanent records of those life histories. After the meeting a digital audio
recorder was purchased – it has already been passed along to our first “volunteer” (Tony
Doughty) for his story. When he completes his dictation, he will return the recorder to
your SAIC for transcription. The recorder will then be passed along to the next volunteer;
everyone will get their chance. It is hoped that everyone will participate.

As part of the same discussion, Kate Schmidli suggested that every member draft an
obituary which lays out many of the details and experiences of each member’s life that
might not be well known to other members, including spouses. The Museum at Fort
Huachuca will retain those documents until they can be put to proper use. All members
are encouraged to participate in that project, too. You do not need to wait for anything –
you can begin today writing your obit.

Stan Solin gave a very interesting talk to the group regarding the history of the two
different CIC veterans groups – the ACICV and the NCICA. He explained how the two
groups separately came into existence and he described the obstacles to a possible

unification of the two groups – a subject of particular interest to our members. With both
groups losing members and not gaining new recruits, it would seem obvious that a union
of the two CIC veterans groups would serve the interests of members of both. Taking
all of Stan’s points into consideration, however, it does not seem likely, to this writer
at least, that such a merger is at all likely. It appears to be another golden opportunity
going a glimmering.

ATTENDANCE: There were 17 attendees at the meeting: Stan & Estélle Solin, Mac
McCormick, Tom & Carolyn Williams, Kate Schmidli, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, Tony &
Pat Doughty, Joan Strom, George & Verle Hackenyos, John Bennetts, Jack Drummond,
and Ray & Sharon Betts.

The door prize, a book about spy operations under General Eisenhower during World
War II, was won by Jack Drummond. Another change in our meetings came out of the
drawing. Since many of us have more books to read that we can ever hope to complete,
the suggestion has been made, and received a good reception from the group’s
leadership, that the door prize be changed. It is proposed that in future meetings the
winner of the door prize will have his/her meal at that meeting paid by the association. At
the November meeting, the group will be asked if it concurs with such a change.

RAY BETTS
SAIC






*  *  REMINDER *  *
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588


SACICA

October 3, 2012



TO ALL MEMBERS –

It is time to resume our monthly winter meetings in Sierra Vista. It will be great to get the old gang together again although the recent loss of one of our favorite members, Bud Strom, will continue to haunt us for some time.



OCTOBER MEETING

We plan to resume our monthly meetings on Friday, October 26 at 11:30 a.m. at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ on Highway 92. We will have a special speaker for this first meeting of the 2012-13 winter season: Stan Solin. Stan is an extremely active member of our parent organization, ACICA. He publishes that organization’s Annual Report, attends all the ACICA annual meetings, and runs the Southern California branch of the ACICA.



FUTURE MEETINGS

Since Thanksgiving comes a little early this year, our November meeting will take place on the usual date – the last Friday of the month, November 30. Our meetings will continue on the last Friday of each month. The December meeting will be held on December 28, and so on.



SPECIAL INVITATON: You are invited to attend a presentation by Harry Bonfield, whom you know from his attendance at most of our meetings last winter. Under the sponsorship of local community response teams, Harry will be discussing his experiences while present at the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Teheran in 1979. It should be a fascinating talk. The presentation is scheduled for next week at 6:00 pm, October 11, 2012, at the University of Arizona  Keating Building, 1652 E. Helen St., Room 103. I just hate it that I will not be back in Tucson in time to attend Harry's talk. I envy those of you who can make it.



We hope you have had a great summer and look forward to seeing you on October 26.



Ray Betts                                                                                           Mac McCormick

(801) 710-2472 (Sharon’s Cell)                                                      (520) 378-3136



Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

APRIL 2012
The April meeting was held Friday, 27 April 2012, at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ. We had a very nice turnout for our last meeting of the spring.

NEXT MEETING: Because our April meeting was our last meeting until fall, we will not meet again until Friday, 26 October 2012. A reminder of the meeting will be sent in mid-October.

DISCUSSION: We continued our string of meetings full of laughter and camaraderie. It was a very enjoyable time for the entire gang. When it came time for the door prize, Sharon admitted that she had included herself for the first time because she knew what the door prize was, and really wanted to win it. Out came the first number – it was not Sharon’s number. When the winner opened the packaging for the prize, however, the winner realized that she already owned a copy of prize: an edition of Bud Strom’s cowboy poetry. So, we drew again. Sharon lost again .  .  . but the new winner also owned a copy of Bud’s book. On the third draw, to everyone’s delight, Sharon won the prize. As the meeting drew to a close, the undersigned SAIC told the group how much he and Sharon enjoyed the time spent together every month with the SACICA members.

ATTENDANCE: There were a full 13 attendees at the meeting: Mac McCormick, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, Tony & Pat Doughty, Bud & Joan Strom, Harry & Bonnie Bonfield, Jack Drummond, Dorothy Dietz, and Ray & Sharon Betts. A total of $43 was contributed to our postal fund – everyone must have been feeling flush on that warm, delightful April afternoon.

RAY BETTS
SAIC





DECEMBER 2011
The December meeting was held Friday, 30 December 2011, at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ. Everyone was delighted to welcome Dorothy Dietz back to our ranks after fighting a serious illness. Dottie Dietz looked great and seemed to be completely recovered from her operation.

NEXT MEETING: Continuing our new pattern of meeting exclusively in Sierra Vista on the last Friday of the month, the next meeting will be held at the Country House Restaurant on January 27, 2012 at 11:30 am. We hope to see a good turn-out.

TAPS: We were sadden to learn that we lost one of our most illustrious members, Wilfred Joseph Toczko, Sr. A survivor of both the Pearl Harbor attack of December 1941 and of internment in a German POW camp, Capt. Toczko led a fascinating life in Army Counter Intelligence. The group passed around a copy of Toczko’s obituary. In the box below are some of the comments made by, and about, Capt. Toczko that have appeared in print.
Pearl Harbor Survivors Project

My Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) veteran friend, Wilfred Toczko was going on guard duty at 7:30 AM on December 7, 1941 as the Japanese planes came over Hickam Field attacking on their way to Pearl Harbor. Toczko fired his 45 caliber pistol at the planes...the first American shots fired. Moments later he and another officer set up a water cooled machine gun to fire. Unfortunately the attacks on Hickam Field had knocked out the water supply. So he and the officer got Coca-Cola drinks and poured it into the liquid cooling compartment of the machine gun to fire off shoots. Toczko entered flight training of B-24 bombers and ultimately was shot down over Germany in a bombing run in late 1944, survived, became a POW until the war ended. Later, Toczko became one of the best ever Counter Intelligence Corps special agents targeting the Soviet Embassy in Tokyo in 1956 to 1958. A true patriot and veteran in every respect. Jim Cate




NEXT MEETING - We are deviating from our "last Friday in the Month" rule for November because the last Friday falls on the day after Thanksgiving -- the notorious "Black Friday." The meeting will be held on Friday, November 18, at the Country House Restaurant, as usual, in Sierra Vista starting at 11:30 am.

There was an extremely light turn-out at our October meeting. Along with Sharon and me, the only attendees were Mac McCormick, Joan & Bud Strom and Dave Ballenger -- the smallest turn-out I have ever seen in Sierra Vista.

I must say, though, that it was one of the more enjoyable meetings for me. We got Mac to expound at length on his career. He had a fascinating career and, even more importantly, he has an incredible memory for dates, names and places that add considerable color to his stories. We also got Bud Strom to relate some of his experiences. Perhaps because of the small, intimate nature of the meeting, it was extraordinarily enjoyable to listen to these two veterans talk away.

I hope we will have a better turn-out at the November meeting because we have lined up a very good speaker. The Army has made significant changes in The Counterintelligence Badge Plaque and Trophy Program which is run by the US Army Intelligence Badge and Credentials Program. The Program Manager is Randall G. Long (affectionately known as Elmo) -- Elmo will be at our November meeting to describe the changes and the procedures for obtaining any keepsakes or memorabilia of interest to any of you.

In light of the very light turn-out in October, I ask all of you, for November only, to let me know (by email or telephone at (520) 742-5588) whether or not you plan to attend. If it appears that another very small turn-out may occur, I may ask Elmo to delay his appearance. So, please, let me know.

Regards to you all,
Ray Betts



Our final Spring 2011 meeting is scheduled for The Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista on Friday, April 29 at 11:30 am. Hope you can make it.

Sharon and I, however, cannot make it. Her sister is coming that Thursday for a very short visit so we'll be with her in Tucson.

NOTE TO MAC - It's all your's, buddy.

Have a great meeting.
Ray



Jim Cate requested that the report of our visit be finalized ASAP so that he could include it in the next issue of the Golden Sphinx which will go to press this Monday. So, the report was put together quickly, hopefully without too many errors.

I would bet that all of you able to join the group at the Ranch found the day to be a very special and rewarding day. What a job Joan and Bud did! That visit was nothing less than pure pleasure.

Hope to see you at our final spring 2011 meeting on April 29 at the usual time at the Country House Restaurant.

Regards to all,
Ray

SACICA




The Gang by a Corral on the Single Star Ranch

Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588
Special Issue on a Special Meeting
Held at the Single Star Ranch
of Joan & BG Roy (“Bud”) Strom (Ret)
MARCH 2011
Our March get-together was held Friday, 25 March 2011 at the Single Star Ranch in Hereford, AZ on a perfect, clear-blue-sky day in Arizona. This magnificent ranch sits in southern Arizona directly on the Mexican border, covers some 1,000 acres and is home to some 130 head of cattle and 65 (formerly abused) horses.






DISCUSSION: Bud Strom really did a wonderful job of giving the SACIA group tours of his ranch in southern Arizona. First, we took a walking tour of the ranch buildings which covered the main ranch house, barn, former “teasing barn” (for you non-cowboys, that is a place where a stallion is kept in close proximity to, but completely fenced off from, a mare), work shop, corrals and branding corrals for cattle and separate corrals for horses.


In the picture above, The General (left forefront) describes the fascinating history of the Ranch to (left to right) Trammell Lindsey, George Hackenyos, Ray Betts (SAIC), Tom Williams (long-time SAIC, now “retired”), & Mac McCormick (ASAIC).

After lunch, we toured the ranch itself in, and in the backs of, trucks bouncing through grazing land, shooing away cattle, and observing (from a safe distance) the unmanned solar-driven observation towers and the manned (by National Guard troops) towers guarding the U.S.-Mexican border. Tony & Pat Doughty are in the caravan along with Ray Betts.




This ranch, like so many other spreads that line the Mexican border, has suffered from the influx of illegal immigrants, drug smugglers and criminals. BG Strom is very grateful for the wall recently erected along his property bordering Mexico. Before the wall was built, the Border Patrol estimated that 1,000 illegals were crossing Bud’s ranch every week. The immigrants would leave behind incredible amounts of trash on the ranch which would have to be collected and discarded at considerable expenditure of time and money. The criminals transporting the immigrants would often tear up the crucial fences which keep the Ranch’s herds off public highways where they would endanger drivers, especially at night. On one dark, rainy night, a transporter tore large openings in five separate fences which left Bud and his wife Joan struggling in the night to repair these barbed-wire fences – Joan was covered with blood and torn skin by the time these emergency repairs were completed. Since the erection of the border wall, these incursions have fallen dramatically.

Bud’s Ranch Manager, Theresa Warrell, runs Horse’n Around Rescue – an expensive but very worthy operation which works to save, restore to good health, and return to a normal active life some of the far-too-many horses that have been abused, or merely abandoned, by their prior owners. That operation has some 60 horses under its care.

ASCICA members are extremely grateful to Joan and Bud for all the time and effort they put into this gathering. It was a very special time for us all.

ATTENDANCE: There were 21 would-be cowpokes at this gathering: Bud & Joan Strom, Mac McCormick, Dorothy Dietz, Tony & Pat Doughty, Trammell Lindsey, Tom & Carolyn Williams, George & Verle Hackenyos, Dave Ballenger, Harry & Bonnie Bonfield, Frank & Alice Christ, Lucinda & Allan Rossou, Therese Warrell and Ray & Sharon Betts. The group made a small donation to the Ranch which will undoubtedly go to help its horse rescue mission.

NEXT MEETING: Our final spring 2011 meeting will be held at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista at 11:30 am on the last Friday of the month, April 29.

RAY BETTS
SAIC




 
Ray & All,

I'm bringing along an interesting couple of Museum volunteers to introduce
to all of you - Mr. and Mrs. Harry & Bonnie Bonfield.  Harry and Bonnie were
married while Harry was stationed at Fort Huachuca in 1975.  Harry spent
part of his career in the CI field and had some rather exciting assignments
during the Cold War era, which I will let him tell you about.

Best regards,

Kate Schmidli
Director
Fort Huachuca Museum
US Army Intelligence Historical Holding
520-533-4946
DSN:  821-4946



Just a reminder --
The SACICA meets at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista at 11:30 am
this coming Friday, February 25.

Hope to see you there.
Ray
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO



SACICA
Attached is the newsletter reporting on our meeting in Sierra Vista yesterday.

PLEASE NOTE CHANGES (described in the newsletter):
• All future meetings with be held monthly, on the last Friday of the month, in Sierra Vista at the Country House Restaurant -- there are no plans to have regular meetings in Tucson in the future; and
• As an exception to the above, the March 2011 meeting is tentatively scheduled to be held on the ranch of Joan and Bud Strom.
We hope to see you in February and, especially, at the March meeting at the Ranch.
Ray



Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

JANUARY 2011
The January meeting was held Friday, 28 April 2011, at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ. The meeting began informally as attendees drifted in over time.

I have been a member of this group for some 3-4 years – this was by far the best meeting that I have ever attended. The meeting was full of good cheer, many fascinating stories, and the passing of a lot of information on the history of Fort Huachuca. Those of you who missed the meeting lost out on a very rewarding get-together.

NEXT MEETING: The next meeting will be held in Sierra Vista at the Country House Restaurant at 11:30 am on Friday, February 25, 2011. See the following section about decisions taken on future meetings of this Association.  

FUTURE MEETINGS: The group has decided to discontinue regular meetings in Tucson. On some occasions, if there is sufficient demand, an occasional meeting could be scheduled in Tucson but, for the immediate future, all meetings will be held in Sierra Vista. This decision was taken largely because, as our membership has shrunk, attendance at Tucson meetings has dropped significantly.

It was also decided that all meetings will be held on the last Friday of the month (with the possible exception of December when a change in that schedule may be necessary). This means that you can plan your schedule around these fixed dates, whether or not you receive a notice regarding the next meeting (or remember the date). Thus, the next three meetings will be on Friday, February 25; Friday, March 25; and Friday, April 29, 2011. It is tentatively planned to hold the March 25 meeting at the ranch of Bud & Joan Strom. The February and April meetings will be held at the Country House restaurant.

DISCUSSION: Mac (who has a memory like a computer for dates and organizational changes in the Army) and Kate provided the group with the process leading to the decision to open Fort Huachuca. Briefly, the Army saw a need for a fort in southeastern Arizona to block the easy access, previously enjoyed by the Apache Indians, to Mexico. The commander of Ft. Lowell in Phoenix, after a reconnaissance of the area by a subordinate, chose the Fort Huachuca site because of its elevation allowing for ease of defense and the availability of water. It is fairly surprising that the Fort survived – it is a fascinating tale of fate and luck. Mac and Dorothy reviewed for us the Army’s decisions, and their implementation, to close Ft. Holabird and to move its Intelligence operations to Ft. Huachuca – another fascinating discussion.

Kate told us that the Army Intelligence Museum had received a $10,000 bequest from the late Col. Kurusch Bharucha-Reid. Col. Reid, who commanded Fort Meade’s Army Field Support Center, died of pancreatic cancer at Walter Reed Army Medical Center last May 26 at the young age of 55. Called a “great American Soldier,” by Maj. Gen. Mary A. Legere, commanding General of the Army Intelligence and Security Command, Col. Reid was a “principled, compassionate and disciplined leader,” Maj. Gen. Legere said. His gift to the Museum was enormously appreciated and will be of great help in furthering the Museum’s mission.

Dorothy told a touching story about her recent encounter with the German Army’s liaison officer to Ft. Huachuca. They met at a well-attended function of Sierra Vista’s movers and shakers. When she spoke to him in fluent German, he asked about her background only to be told that she was a Holocaust survivor. His reaction was immediate – with deep furrows forming on his forehead. With the kindness for which she is famous, she lightly touched those furrows and calmed that officer with words expressing her lack of bitterness or hatred over those long-ago events. She told him that he should feel no embarrassment over that history since he had not even been born when those events had occurred. During their discussion a large medal, a golden eagle, fell to the floor off his uniform. Dorothy picked up that medal and pinned it back on the officer’s tunic, thinking even at the time that she had never imagined herself pinning a medal on a German officer. It is a moment, I think, that the German officer will not soon forget (he related the story that same evening to Ft. Huachuca’s commanding officer); it is certainly a story that the rest of us will long remember.

ATTENDANCE: There were 10 attendees at the meeting: Mac McCormick; Joan Strom, Dorothy Dietz, Kate Schmidli, Tony & Pat Doughty, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, and Ray & Sharon Betts. The door prize, a book describing the military experiences of U.S. Presidents who had served in the military, was won by Tony Doughty. We collected $22 for the postage stamp fund.

RAY BETTS
SAIC










The next SACICA meeting will be in Sierra Vista at the Country House Restaurant on Friday, January 28.

Ray

P.S. for Mac: Sharon and I have made the reservation. All you have to do is show up. We both hope that you are doing as well as can be expected after your loss. Best regards.







Hi Gang -
Well, we had a very small turnout in Tucson -- just 5 members showed up. As a result, the restaurant -- notified ahead of time -- moved us out of the Board Room into the main restaurant area. It was decided to dispense with any kind of semi-formal meeting (eliminating the Pledge, the door prize, and so on).

So, there's really nothing to report in a Newsletter.

We will meet the Friday of the week before Christmas at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, December 17, at 11:30 am.

One topic for preliminary discussion: Shall our organization abandon meetings in Tucson, holding all of our future meetings in Sierra Vista. It would take a considerable load off Mac and Sally who loyally drive up from Sierra Vista for the Tucson meetings. And we usually have better attendance in Sierra Vista. And speakers (i.e., from the Fort) are far easier to obtain. I'd like some preliminary input from the December meeting attendees before I sit down to discuss the matter with the few, irregular attendees in Tucson.

Ray Betts
SAIC
Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Ass'n







TO ALL MEMBERS –
This email/letter is going out to all of our members, those living both in-state and outside of Arizona. For out-of-state folks, we would love to have you attend one or more of these meetings but, whether you can or not, we wanted you to know the Association’s meeting plans for the coming few months.

OCTOBER MEETING
We plan to resume our monthly meetings on Friday, October 22 at 11:30 a.m. at the Country Kitchen Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ on Highway 92. We may or may not have a speaker.

FUTURE MEETINGS
Subject to different thoughts the membership might have at the October meeting, we are planning a November meeting in Tucson on Friday, November 19 at a place to be determined. This is the Friday BEFORE Thanksgiving – no one wants to compete with Black Friday (the biggest shopping day of the year).

A December meeting is planned, back in Sierra Vista, for Friday, December 17. Like the November meeting, this is planned for the Friday preceding the holiday; Christmas falls on a Saturday this year.

We hope you had a great summer and look forward to seeing you on October 22.

Ray Betts Mac McCormick
(520) 742-5588 (520) 378-3136


Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

APRIL 2010
The April meeting was held Friday, 23 April 2010, at The Old Pueblo Grill in Tucson, AZ. Ray Betts, SAIC, opened the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance at 11:50 AM. We had a good turnout, meeting the restaurant’s 12-person minimum (barely).

NEXT MEETING: Our April meeting was our last meeting until the fall – October. Information will be provided as fall approaches.

DISCUSSION: Since we had no guest speaker, the group entertained itself, letting the conversation go where it would. The best thing – the group talked as a “committee of the whole” without a lot of side conversations. It was very comfortable and entertaining get-together.

ATTENDANCE: There were 13 attendees at the meeting: Conrad, Sally & Richard McCormick; Tom & Carolyn Williams; Chuck & JoAnne Phillips, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, Ed Boyle & Sandi Nye, and Ray & Sharon Betts. The door prize, an NCICA Annual Meeting Commemorative mug, was won by Sally McCormick.

We collected only $21 for the postage stamp fund but that is not a concern for anyone; we have a nice, admittedly small, kitty built up.

Included in this Newsletter below is a picture taken at the April meeting of
OUR GANG


RAY BETTS
SAIC








SACICA



Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

MARCH 2010
The March meeting was held Friday, 26 March 2010, at Country House Restaurant, Sierra Vista, AZ. Ray Betts, SAIC, opened the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance at 11:50 AM. Yet again, we had an extremely good turn out – we nearly filled the room to capacity with twenty attendees including our speaker and his wife.

NEXT MEETING: In April, in what is likely to be our last meeting until the fall, we will gather in Tucson. We continue to experiment with different restaurants.  The meeting will be held in a private room at the Old Pueblo Grill, 60 N. Alvernon (just north of Broadway on the east side of the road); if you get lost, the restaurant’s phone number is (520) 326-6000. The meeting is scheduled for Friday, April 23, 2010 at 11:30 am. We do ask that you RSVP to Ray Betts about one week prior to the meeting and we strongly encourage you to attend this last spring meeting. Old Pueblo Grill will charge our Association for the number of meals that falls below a minimum attendance of twelve (12).

SICK CALL: Sharon Betts reported on Carolyn Williams’ third knee operation – this one at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale. As most of you know, Carolyn has been in considerable and nearly constant pain for a long time because of two botched knee operations done in Tucson. The operation at Mayo, on Tuesday, March 23, lasted over five hours due to the extent of the repair work required. Carolyn was in very good spirits after the operation, was told by the surgeons that the operation went well and, in fact, was release on the day of our meeting (March 26). We all wish Carolyn a speedy, relatively pain-free recovery and a long happy life spent walking on a new, high-tech, fully operational knee!

DISCUSSION: We learned that a successor to MG John Custer as Commander of the U.S. Army Intelligence Center of Excellence & Fort Huachuca has been named. He is BG Stephen G. Fogarty who presently is Director of Intelligence, J-2, United States Central Command at MacDill AFB, Florida. He has risen steadily through the ranks. A graduate of the Army War College, he has seen duty, among other places, with the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) and has commanded the 732d MI Battalion, 115th MI Group, and the 116th MI Brigade, before serving as Director, Joint Intelligence Operations Center in Afghanistan. The change in command is scheduled for late June.

GUEST SPEAKER: We heard from one of the most entertaining speakers who had ever appeared before us. CW3 George Grayhek, accompanied by his wife Karen, regaled us with tales of his Army experiences over an incredibly long period of time. CW3 Grayhek served twenty years in the Army before retiring in 1979. After another 27 years in the IRR, he was able to convince the Army that he would be a valuable asset on active duty, even at the age of 64! His description of that adventure – convincing a dubious Army command structure of his potential contribution – was a hilarious story in and of itself. CW3 Grayhek helps maintain the Army’s newly developing, highly sophisticated intelligence systems. The take on today’s Army by this patriotic, long-serving soldier was thoroughly enjoyed by all. We thank CW3 Grayhek for his willingness to share his experiences with us.

ATTENDANCE: There were a full twenty attendees at the meeting: Conrad & Sally McCormick; Kate Schmidli, BG Bud & Joan Strom, Dorothy Dietz, Tony & Pat Doughty, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, Jack Drummond, George & Verle Hackenyos, Ed Boyle & guest (Ginny Dontrich), Chuck Phillips, our speaker CW3 George Grayhek and his wife Karen, and Ray & Sharon Betts. The door prize, The Secrets of D-Day by Larry Collins, was won by Kate Schmidli.

We collected an historic $48.00 for the postage stamp fund. Wow!! Many thanks for your generosity and continued support. For your information, the Association is now sitting on a kitty of some $200. Your leadership may recommend that some of this money be spent next fall or the following spring to augment funds received from Fort Huachuca for a reception we would host for active duty soldiers. Kate Schmidli and Ray Betts have been working on this possibility.

RAY BETTS
SAIC







SACICA

REMINDER:
The next meeting is scheduled for Friday, February 19th, at 11:30am at the El Charro Cafe Oro Valley, 7725 N. Oracle Road (near Kohl's). Their phone number is 520-229-1922.

REMINDER 2:
Unlike Sierra Vista meetings, we have agreed to that those planning to attend a Tucson meeting will RSVP to me. You can still come at the last minute if things change for you -- we never discourage you from coming -- but advance notice is helpful to give us (and the restaurant) a "feel" for the number of likely attendees.

COMMENT:
We do not have a speaker as yet. Our SAIC Emeritus, Tom Williams, is giving it his best shot.

Ray



DON'T FORGET.
The SACICA January meeting will be held at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista this coming Friday, January 22, at 11:30am.

Kate Schmidli has come through for us, yet again. She has lined up Bill Morgan as a speaker for our meeting:

Bill is another one of Mac's "understudies." He is a senior analyst with the Intel Center there, specializing in Signals Intelligence ground systems.

However, in his off duty time, he conducts research on Army Intelligence
History and has made several tremendous donations of archival information to the Intel Center and the Museums.  

He will give a briefing on Intelligence History - with a focus on LTC Knowlton's intelligence activities during the Revolutionary War. A war which I dare say predates even our oldest veterans...

Hope to see all of you there.
Ray




Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

December 2009
The December meeting was held Friday, 18 December 2009, at the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ. Ray Betts, SAIC, opened the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance at 11:55 AM.

NEXT MEETING:  The next meeting will be held in Sierra Vista at the Country House Restaurant at 11:30 am on Friday, January 22, 2010.  This is a change from past practice (rotation of meetings back and forth between Sierra Vista and Tucson.  After consultation with Mac, our Deputy SAIC, I have decided to increase the number of meetings in Sierra Vista, in the short term at least, while reducing the number of meetings in Tucson. The timing of this decision may seem a little odd in light of the good attendance at the last two Tucson meetings. The decision was taken, however, for a number of reasons. We have a permanent on-going relationship with the Country House Restaurant in Sierra Vista which greatly reduces the stress on your leadership in arranging meetings. Secondly, with the Fort so near by, it is much easier to obtain informed and willing speakers for our meetings. Thirdly, on more than one occasion our Tucson attendance has fallen below the minimum numbers requested by, and expected by, the Metropolitan Grill in Tucson; this has proven to be both embarrassing for your leadership and frustrating for the restaurant. The Grill has served notice that, in the future, we will be moved out to tables in the main room of the restaurant whenever attendance falls below their minimum.

TAPS: Professor Edwin S. Andrews III passed away from lung disease at his home in Michigan on December 6, 2009, at the age of 81. Edwin served in the Army CIC in Germany just prior to the Korean War.  A 1968 doctoral graduate in Education from the University of Arizona, Edwin taught at Michigan State University for many years before retiring as Professor of Education (Science and Finance) and returning to Tucson. He was a proud member of our group as well as of the Tucson Coaches Club. Ill health eventually forced him to move back to Michigan. He will be missed by all. Our deepest sympathy goes out to Edwin’s family and friends.

SICK CALL: Sally McCormick spent four day in the hospital for pneumonia and an infection. The first good news we heard was that Sally, on the day of our meeting, was allowed out of bed for a short walk around the hospital – a good sign that she was recovering. The second good news is that Sally, now at home, sounds very chipper on the telephone. We all join in wishing her continued good health.

Tom Williams, the long-time SAIC of our group, has been quite ill of late. Thought at first to have pneumonia (like Sally), further tests revealed no pneumonia but a very bad case of bronchitis. We all wish him a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing him and Carolyn at our next meeting.

DISCUSSION: Ray reported on his discussions with Kate Schmidli which are aimed at holding a reception at the MI Museum. We plan to advertise the event widely on Post in the hope that active duty soldiers would attend. The intent of the reception is to give active duty veterans of the Iraqi and Afghanistan wars the opportunity to talk about their experiences with our members – experienced soldiers who have been through similar experiences. We had considered trying to hold the reception during the holidays but the Museum is short of funding at present. Our target date for the event is the March-April time frame.

GUEST SPEAKER: COL James I. Dinniman (Ret.) served twenty-nine years as an Army officer in an extraordinary variety of positions. A graduate of the University of Connecticut with an MA in Political Science (International Relations), Jim ended up with Combat Infantryman, Airborne, Army General Staff and Special Forces badges. Among other positions, he served as Commander, 112th MI Brigade; CI Sec Chief, 218th MI Detachment (Airborne); and Commander, 701st MI Detachment (CI). He spoke in great detail about the country’s national intelligence structure (if that’s the right word) during the years of near chaos following Truman’s disbandment of the OSS after WWII. His grasp of the shifting tides of those years was impressive; as Bud Strom commented, his memory of those events is amazing, even scary. It was a fascinating presentation that held the attention of everyone in the room.

ATTENDANCE: There were ten members in attendance at the meeting: Conrad McCormick; Chuck Phillips, Dorothy Dietz, Jack Drummond, Trammell & Bettie Lindsey, Bud & Joan Strom, and Ray & Sharon Betts. Two door prizes were awarded. A book written by a friend of Sharon’s about his experience as a POW during World War II went to Bettie Lindsey; a CD of cowboy poetry created by Bud Strom went to Chuck Phillips.

We collected $36.00 for the postage stamp fund. Thank you for your generosity and continued support.

We wish each of you, your family and loved ones, a safe and heartfelt Happy Holidays! We look forward to seeing you next year.

RAY BETTS
SAIC









SACICA



Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association
Ray Betts, Special Agent in Charge Tel: (520) 742-5588
Conrad McCormick, Deputy SAIC Tel: (520) 378-3136
Sharon Betts, Secretary/Treasurer Tel: (520) 742-5588

November 2009
The November meeting was held Friday, 20 November 2009, at the Metropolitan Grill Restaurant in Tucson, AZ. Ray Betts, SAIC, opened the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance at 11:50 AM. For the second time in a row, there was a very good turn out. Two attendees joined us for the first time: Tony & Pat Doughty from Green Valley. They were a welcome addition to our group. It was good to have you, Tony and Pat.

DISCUSSION:  There was general agreement that different rules should apply to the Tucson meetings in contrast to those in Sierra Vista. While members will not be asked to RSVP before meetings in Sierra Vista, they will be asked to inform the SAIC whether they will attend a Tucson meeting. This policy difference is due to the difficulty of obtaining restaurant reservations in Tucson without a fairly reliable count of expected attendees. In all cases a reminder email will be sent out less than one week before an upcoming meeting.

There is some sentiment for adding some variety to our door prizes. While books are still appreciated, other prizes would be welcome. Among the suggestions were store gift certificates, edible items, and nick-knacks.

It was decided that name tags are still a good idea. However, instead of using the pre-printed, pin-on tags, a sheet of stick-on name tags will be placed next to the sign-in sheet. Attendees will be asked to write their first names on the tag and stick it on their clothing. It is felt that such a step helps those of us with short-term memory problems – which is most of us – avoid forgetting the names of fellow members when first seeing them at a meeting.

GUEST SPEAKER: Both potential speakers were unable to attend the meeting. In lieu of a speaker, we had each member relate their life experiences, both within the military and in civilian life. While many of us had heard bits and pieces of the background of our varied members, it was fascinating to hear more detailed descriptions.

There were thirteen members in attendance at the meeting: Conrad, Sally & Richard McCormick; Tom & Carolyn Williams; Chuck Philips, Tony & Pat Doughty, Bert & Peggy Falbaum, Phyllis Egermeier, and Ray & Sharon Betts. The door prize, a Spode Christmas mug, was won by Sally McCormick – who won for the second time in a row.

We collected $30.00 for the postage stamp fund. Thank you for your generosity and continued support.

There was general agreement at the end of the meeting that this get-together had been one of the group’s more entertaining and enjoyable sessions. There was a lot of laughter and a real spirit of collegiality.

RAY BETTS
SAIC




TO ALL MEMBERS –

This email is going out to all of our members, those living both in-state and outside of Arizona. For out-of-state folks, we would love to have you attend one or more of these meetings but, whether you can or not, we wanted you to know the Association’s meeting plans for the coming few months.
The next SACICA luncheon will be held a week from today on Friday, November 20, 2009 at 11:45 am. We will meet in the "Board Room" of the Metropolitan Grill (Restaurant) on N. Oracle Road.

Tom Williams thinks (hopes) he has a speaker lined up for us.  If not, to again repeat Mac's immortal words, we'll just sit around and lie to each other. And catch up on each's other's news.

Looking forward to seeing as many of you as can possibly make the meeting.

Ray
N O T I C E

November Meeting

The next meeting of the SACICA will be held in Tucson at the Metropolitan Grill on Oracle Road on Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:00 noon.


For the information of those who just attend meetings occasionally or only come to Tucson get-togethers, this will be the only meeting of our group before the holidays. It may also prove to be one of the few meetings held in Tucson this winter and spring because far more members attend our Sierra Vista sessions.


If you want to join with your colleagues at least once annually, you are strongly encouraged to attend this meeting


OCTOBER MEETING

We plan to resume our monthly meetings on Friday, October 23 at 11:30 a.m. at the Country Kitchen Restaurant in Sierra Vista, AZ on Highway 92. We may or may not have a speaker; if we don’t, we can, in Mac’s immortal words, “sit around and lie to each other.” What he means, of course, is that since quite a few months have passed since our last get-together, it would be good to catch each other up on our lives over the summer.



FUTURE MEETINGS

Subject to different thoughts the membership might have at the October meeting, we are planning a November meeting in Tucson on Friday, November 20 at a place to be determined. This is the Friday BEFORE Thanksgiving -- no one wants to compete with Black Friday (the biggest shopping day of the year).



A December meeting is planned, back in Sierra Vista, for Friday, December 18. Like the November meeting, this is planned for the Friday preceding the holiday; Christmas falls on a Friday this year.



NOTICE OF PLANS TO ATTEND

Unfortunately, we felt compelled to cancel the Association’s meeting for last April because too few members had let us know that they planned to attend. We had lined up a very good speaker but did not want him to arrive only to find 5 or 6 attendees to address. It learned later that some members had planned to attend (including some who had been a “maybe”) but we did not learn of their plans until after the cancellation.



To avoid this problem, at least for this meeting until the issue can be discussed with the membership at the Country Kitchen, we are asking those planning to attend the October meeting to let us know by return email or telephone call to Ray or Mac no later than WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14TH. If we do not hear from you by that date, we will assume that you will not attend.



We hope you had a great summer and look forward to seeing you on October 23.



Ray Betts                                                                   Mac McCormick

(520) 742-5588                                                         (520) 378-3136









SACICA
Attached is the Newsletter reporting on the March 2009 meeting of the Southern Arizona Counter Intelligence Corps Association.

We call your attention to the information included in the Newsletter regarding the Homeland Security Agency's SENTRI PROGRAM which greatly expedites (and thus greatly speeds up) the process for Americans crossing back into the US from Mexico.

We look forward to seeing you at our April meeting in Tucson on April 17 at the Metropolitan Grill -- we have a very interesting speaker lined up (as described in the Newsletter).

Ray Betts
SAIC
(520) 742-5588

SACICA
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